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police have shut the area down. wjz is live with first warning weather. bob turk and bernadette woods are tracking it. bob? >> if you look at radar, there's a tremendous stream of moisture and it's moving almost due north from the carolinas into virginia and also along the lower eastern shore. let's change gears. i want to show you what's going on. you see a bit of a gap. now it's moderate to heavy rain, particularly in the eastern shore a band of heavy rain also to the west as you can see. as far as rainfall totals go the numbers are hum believably impressive. this band six to eight inches in some places, eight to 10 inches right along the central portion into eastern sections of harford harford. east of us a lot less.
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salisbury less than an inch. ocean city had almost nothing to this point, but probably see that change tonight. bernadette joins me with a look at the updated numbers and also dealing with the winds. bernadette? over nine incheses of rain. annapolis. these have leveled off. with the new round coming in, these are going to come up. this has jumped over two inches in hagerstown and all of them will be rising. we have flash flood warnings in effect for the green counties and a tornado watch that's been pulled back, just these counties in this section. that's until 7:00 tonight and coast -- coastal flood warnings. we've seen winds sustained generally 15 to 20 miles an hour. that will continue through the
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evening hours. the water will pile up for the next high tide. we'll see changes but not until tomorrow. we'll have a full forecast coming up shortly. right now, back to you. >> thank you. first warning weather coverage continues with captain mike perry. captain, mike? >> i don't have a great deal of details. i beyond stand our ground reporter, kelly mcpherson as some details on this. looks like significant activity in the fells point area. looks like police are restricting traffic significantly below fleet street. if you're trying to get down towards the water front, if you're not a resident, police are turning a lot of people around. you can get by fells point using eastern avenue. most of the police activity is fleet street to the south. i'm sure kelly will give you details on that. you can see that probably what police are trying to do here is
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for the expected flooding later on this evening, they're trying to make arc -- arrangements for folks to get their cars out. the water will be rising this evening. looks like the weather is getting significantly worse. back to you on tv hill. >> first warning weather conditions. derek valcourt is live with the problems in baltimore county. >> reporter: we had waist high water earlier. really hit hard as many of the areas along the bay. we have seen torrential rains, washed out roads and flooded homes and business. blame it all on the relentless rain, visibility is low in glen
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burn ni, cars were unable to cross. in light thy couple. >> we'll probably shut it off. >> reporter: some of the worst around dundalk and essex. >> kept on going and within seconds exploded, yelling help me, help me. >> reporter: major flooding shut down rosedale. nearby -- >> i've never seen it this high oar are more homes and business flood. these waters have started rising -- had started rising at 9:00 in the morning. you can see how much debris has been carried away boit torrential rains. >> the water was up to the top of the bed of the white pickup
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truck. all those cars were under water. >> reporter: overwhelmed storms and creeks caused schools to close early. north point road hit especially hard. small neighborhoods became small rivers, low offing some homes with major basement flooding. the winds that we've had and also the heavy floodwaters have really knocked out power to thousands of marylanders. a lot of people out in this area feeling water logged, feeling soaked. many of them knowing they have a lot of cleanup ahead of them thank to the flooding. derek valcourt, wjz eyewitness news. >> our first warning weather coverage continues. the water levels are rising. there's some police abet thrift there as well. kelly? >> reporter: let me show you a great example. we were here at 5:00. the water came to just about
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where i'm standing. now, just an hour later, it's spilling hot into the streets and causing trouble for traffics a cars try to go around this large puddle. it's several inches deep. cars need to be careful. there's a lot of police activity. the and of the street is blending in with the harbor as water, nearly a foot deep, is covering this block, stranding several cars. streets are shut down in fells point. police are blocking all north- south streets close to the water. rest accidents are asked to move cars off the streets into two parking lots. >> at best we'll be dealing with flooded basements. >> reporter: not today in mt. washington. there was an evacuation of nine businesses, including whole foods, the post office and the
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gym. >> knocked on the door and told them weather conditions weren't favorable and to alleviate the possibility of performing human rescues. we encouraged them to evacuate. they welcomed our safety initiatives. >> reporter: the mayor said emergency crews are dispatched throughout the city, preparing for flooding. he said fells point is a critical area. >> we haven't been certain what we're going to see. we're being very vigilant. we're watching what's going on in the surrounding jurisdictions. we're being very cautious and preparing as if we're going to have a significant amount of rainfall and we're praying that we don't. >> reporter: but the rain has started. the rain has started again. you can see this car we showed you earlier, the water level is rising up to that tire. this has essentially turned into a lake. if you're asked to move your car, there are two garages you
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can move your car to and park. one is on eden and one is on south central avenue. we have learned from the mare they are opening two schools in the city if anyone is in need of shelter because of the storm. kelly mcpherson reporting. >> thank you. first warning weather continues with weijia jiang reporting on the conditions in harford county for us. >> reporter: as heavy rain and strong gusts of wind pound the roads -- >> water came up underneath the car, made the belt slip. the battery light came on. there was attraction on the belt -- there was a traction on the belt. >> reporter: they started
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planning 24 hours before the storm hit. >> when we get rain rates of more than an earn or so an hour, we find the streets get inundated and have a problem getting emergency vehicles in there. >> i haven't seen this in awhile. >> reporter: he had to pick his three boys up for class by thursday morning. by 1:00 all schools in harford county were closed. >> they knew it would be like this. they should have canceled school ahead of time. >> reporter: the marina in the hart of downtown quickly became flooded again at high tide. he monitors 245 boats. >> gone out and pumped two boats. >> reporter: it's in the just water above water that they're concerned about. they said underground way after the storm. >> we anticipate trees down. with trees down, roadways down and with that electrical
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outages. >> this is just the beginning. it's going to get real, real bad. we're going to be flooded. >> reporter: we just checked in with some crews at city hall a short time ago. they said they expect a lot heavier rains a night progresses. they don't know if they'll close tomorrow. tomorrow all harford county schools have at least a two-our delay. weijia jiang, wjz eyewitness news. >> remember, wjz is on for instant updates and weather forecasts. log on to wjz.com. federal investigators have arrived in maryland to look into that deadly bus crash in montgomery county. there are also new calls for better safety on state roadways. >> reporter: moments ago maryland state police said there were no mechanical violations or mechanical issues. a charter bus plunged off a skyramp and crashed almost 45
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feet below. the driver, 66-year-old joseph clabaugh was killed. 12 other, including several children were injured. aaa officials are calling for stronger barriers and guardrails on roads and bridges. >> aaa has similar -- had similar concerns about road bear requires in the past. a high profile murder trial. former baltimore city councilman ken harris was killed during a robbery. >> reporter: inside baltimore circuit court, it's day 14 in the murder trial of city councilman ken harris but the first day of closing arguments. prosecutors say dna on key evidence like gloves and the halloween mask allegedly used during the robbery links the three defendants to the murder scene. they remind jurors of testimony
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and showed surveillance video that put the defendants at the crime scene. they are all three equally responsible and they claim there locked and loaded. in august 2008 city councilman ken harris visited the haven lounge in northeast baltimore. police say he stopped by to borrow a cork screw and use the bathroom but walked in on a rob about rirks tried to get away and was shot in the back. >> i do disagree with her interpretation of some of the evidence. >> reporter: the defense attorneys compared to to the case of falcon heene. he asked jurors to not believe everything they hear. >> the decision they make is just like a brain surgeon. the decision they make will affect people's lives forever. >> reporter: each defense attorney gets the opportunity
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to address the jury. then the prosecution will refute the defense' statement that means closing arguments could well into tomorrow. at city circuit court, i'm gigi barnett. >> prosecutors also scaled down the charges from first-degree- murder to first degree felony murder. the countdown begins. home three days before the ravens head to pittsburgh for another tough game. jess, you are our excitement tracker. >> and the excitement scale is way up here. bars and restaurants are preparing for sunday's away game. take a look. there's another storm brewing, this time in the steel city. as the ravens head to pittsburgh. they're gearing up for the
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ravens rush. >> stocked up on beer. we got tons of wings. >> reporter: the bar boostedder that staff in preparation for a -- >> high energy, gets everybody excited, get you pumped up. you're ready to go. >> reporter: and fans are ready for some hard fought football. >> it's going to be a hard fought game. it's going to be smash mouth football between both of them. i think that -- i think the ravens will come out. >> i'm super pumped. we might battle with them real hard. pretty hungry. i feel like we'll do some real hurting. >> i think they'll win. they're a good team and i don't like the steelers, so they definitely have to win. >> reporter: they have taken several reservations. if you're planning on watching the game away from home, you need to start making those
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plans now. >> all right. good advice. thank you. complete ravens coverage continues with mark viviano. he has more on the expert predictions for us. mark? >> i don't know about expert. i'll go with educated guesses, how about that? all of us now are predicting a close ravens victory. i've got the final being 17-16 in favor of the ravens. he as it close. my partner at 107 the fan bulldogs, said 20-19 ravens. the morning crew predicting ravens victory 13-10 and 20-17. there's a backup quarterback for the steelers as they go with charlie batch. >> the ravens, as you said, on the road to face the pittsburgh
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steelers. they're back mon website website. you can see it at one live here on wjz 13. it will be immediately followed by our post game show. we'll have post game reaction, live from the field house, a big day of football sunday right here on wcco.com/links. >> to all the steelers fans in this building, we know where you live. >> we know where you live. still to come tonight a teenager electrocuted on a softball field. hot family is targeting in a lawsuit. the biggest toy recall. which popular products are goring children. >> heavy rains and winds. when will the system clear out? .
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today these factories are full of dot com businesses. . and now my job is helping maryland create new economy jobs. training new math and science teachers investing in our institutions of excellence pioneering new cyber security jobs and giving an old gm plant a jump start building electric motors. i'm barbara mikulski. i approve this message so you'll know i'm fighting for you.
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two governors, two different approaches. even in good times bob ehrlich did not make education a priority. he increased college tuition by 40%, cut school construction by $200 million, and ehrlich voted to eliminate the department of education
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while serving in congress. but martin o'malley, even in the toughest of times, has made record investments in public schools, new school construction, and o'malley froze college tuition four years in a row. with martin o'malley, our children always come first. a toy recall includes 7 million try sickles with a plastic ignition key. play zones are also being recalled because of choking hazards. now that maryland is officially in the slot business, other gambling related issues are popping up. pat warren reports most marylands would approve of table games. >> 4, 3, 2, 1!
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>> reporter: governor martin o'malley cut the ribbon. it's a 67% cut which critics believe has made it difficult to attract bidders. maryland is already trumped by card games and casinos in neighboring states. the state's biggest license holder may be shut down by a ballot question on whether to allow slots around anne arundel. >> we shouldn't be bullied into accepting slots if neighbors don't feel it's appropriate. >> reporter: the headliners on the ballot, and governor martin o'malley and earlier have wrestled with expanded gambling. >> i understand concerns around the mel, obviously. i also saw some misleading advertising. this is a freestanding
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building. so we'll see how it plays out. >> reporter: the latest "washington post" poll shows valve the voters surveyed believes it should include table games, something o'malley opposes. >> i think this location and the number of people coming out and playing today and that were playing all week is some indication that this is going to be a strong location as the others will. >> reporter: but ehrlich thinks table games should be considered. >> because of negligence, we're driving. we're not going to have the income. >> a bill did pass the senate this year to let voters vote on card games in prince george's county but it failed in the house. mary? >> thank you. no acceptable bids have been made yet for slots in baltimore city or western maryland. if you're betting on whether we'll get more rain,
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bob says you may win. >> rain everywhere. the only place that hasn't seen rain is along the beach. ocean city had a trace. here's 77, southeast winds at 13067 the barometer is holding steady. when we come back we'll take a look at the radar and some prospects for sun later tomorrow. [ female announcer ] remember this promise?
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[ man ] martin o'malley -- taking on bg&e to stop the rate hikes. [ female announcer ] never happened -- your bill went up 72%. and o'malley gave the bureaucrat who approved the rate hike a huge raise. now martin o'malley promises we're moving forward. the fact of the matter is our economy is doing much better now. [ female announcer ] really? nearly 7,000 marylanders lost their jobs last month. four years ago, martin o'malley misled us. now he's just making stuff up. bob ehrlich. we can do better.
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let's take a lock at radar. only two places are not seeing rain, along the beaches, well to the east of us, along the ocean beaches and hancock, cumberland area. it's quiet right now. a batch of moderate to heavy rain south of the reason and another batch in the delaware maryland line and a skinny line to the west of us. we'll look for more rain tonight. they just extended that flash flood warning until after midnight tonight for all of central maryland. let's take a look at the watches and advisories. officially until 7:00 for the western side of the bay here from harford county to the calvert county area. a tornado watch until 7:00. we still have the flash flood warning and the coastal flood warnings until tomorrow morning. we're figure to see more of that. it's because the waters have
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been pushing with the south and southeasterly winds the last couple of days. it's like a huge bathtub. it pushes the waters up to the west side of the bay. when they turn back to the northwest it will push the water out of the bay. that's not expected to happen until tomorrow. still more high tide and more flooding. 20, 25 knots. it's enough that it's been pushing the water over the last two days. look at assume of the high tides. bowly's had a high tide and going to a low tide. annapolis late tonight. chesapeake beach. no doubt we'll see more flooding. look at the stream of moisture from east of florida and the bahamas up to maine, southern canada, just a stream of
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tropical moisture. it as a rich field of moisture. still headed our way. we could easily see two to three more inches of rain. that tropical moisture continues to flood in our region. by tomorrow afternoon the system should be through. drier air comes. cooler temperatures it. looks like a pretty nice weekend shaping up. gale warning lifted. southeast winds up to 0 to 40 knots at times. tonight still rain, could be heavy and more flooding. 64 tomorrow. rain in the morning. probably until 9:00 or 10:00 and sunshine breaking through, rose disci and a much nice per afternoon. high of 72 degrees. he'll have the weekend coming up. >> still to come tonight, heavy rains along the east coast. the problems it's causing in maryland. ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
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it is 6:30, 77 degrees with leet rain. here's some of the stories people are talking about. we've been telling you about the heavy rains causing power outages and dangerous driving conditions across the state. for example, this car became stuck in floodwaters in
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southern maryland. first respoarnds worked to rescue people and many roadways remain closed at this hour. outside the rain isn't over yet. these conditions are expected to continue throughout the evening. wjz is live with first warning weather. bob turk and bernadette woods. bob? >> a lot of folks -- it's not over at all. there's a huge amount of rain. an additional two to three inches of rain. look at all this stuff just to the south of us and it's generally moving in our direction. look at our local radar. we you can see -- you can see a band west of us. and a heavy band to the east of our region. that all continues to hit off to the north and northeast. let's take another look at some of the rainfall totals, which will be extremely impressive. six inches. most of the area right along
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the bay. some areas eight or more inches. to the west less. a lot less over portions of delaware. so the real heavy band through there east of baltimore into southern portions of calvert, st. mary's and portions of western dorchester down into portions of virginia. a little bit more on this. bernadette joins me. >> these numbers will start going up. the next round is on its way. we've had over nine inches of rain. the airport alone we've seen those numbers. over 7 1/2 at the naval acady. salisbury will be on the way up. now the thing is, there are a lot of warnings going on. flash flood warnings have been extended. you see all of those counties. this has been extended until
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12:15 a.m. in addition to that, still officially a tornado watch if -- in effect through 7:00 tonight. that severe weather threat at been the biggest problem. underneath we're seeing coastal flood warnings. that's because the winds have been sustained at 20 to 25 miles an hour. this turned around to the northwest. the band shifted to the east, cranked our wind around to the now. i don't think that's the trend. it will not push the water back out tomorrow. we'll keep you updated. mary? >> wjz has been tracking the flooding conditions all day in baltimore county. derek valcourt reports from rosedale. >> reporter: you can see how much water, how much flooding this area has seen over the course of the last five, six, seven hours or so neighbors say it got really bad about 9:00 this morning.
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water as just been rushing. you can see the debris off in the woods here, just how much stuff has been carried away by those rushing waters. the water levels were so high. some of the people who live in the area say it was over the back of this flatbed here on this tow truck. that's pretty high, so high, it caused problems for the building. the water levels were about that height, meaning this place has really lost power. all of the cars that have been parked back in here have been ruined. there's been so much flooded warts. people here say they are going to be cleaning up for a long time, major losses for the businesses and homes just in this area on the eastern side of baltimore county. derek valcourt. wjz eyewitness news. >> first warning weather coverage continues at wjz.com with gigi barnett. she has photos of the flooding
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damage. gigi? >> reporter: check out this shot of orems road. the road is completely flooded out. check out this shot of hudson street from louise. big problem in mill river. tracy sent in this of rossville boulevard and route 40. the storm surge is pounding. this is from janet along chesapeake avenue. if you want to send your picture, you can come here to wjz.com and click on the lirch on the home page. you can take a look at our slideshow. mary, back to you. >> they've been very dramatic and very telling. remember, wjz is always on for instant updates and live radar all the time. log on to our website, wjz.com. some breaking news for you
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right now. a major development in the tight race for maryland's governor. there's word that governor o'malley and bob ehrlich have agreed to a debate. this follows weeks of uncertainty. >> just in the past few hours, details of the debate have been negotiated through wjz by general manager and president jay newman. >> we're very happy just lace this afternoon. we've come to a consensus. there will be a debate between governor martin o'malley and former governor ehrlich. it will be brud cast between 7:00 and 8:00 that night, simulcast by radio public ypr
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and sponsored by the baltimore jewish council. >> we know both camps have said they always wanted to debate, but as always, the devil is in the details. >> i think right from the beginning the representatives of both governors and the candidates themselves have indicated they want to get their views out. they want to give the viewers the opportunity to see the candidates exchanging views. it took awhile to coordinate the schedules. both are busy men out on the campaign trail but we were able to reach an agreement. then there will be a general discussion of the issues. the economy, transportation, the environment, that type of thing so people can see both candidates together, compare their views. when they go to the polls, they'll be informed, which is really the objective. >> and we look forward to it. thank you.
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>> back to you. >> thank you very much pat and jay. you can see that governor's debate between martin o'malley and bob ehrlich on monday october the 11th at 7:00 p.m. still to come on wjz eyewitness news, more on the ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,seen and
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the family of a 14-year-old who was electrocuted at a softball field has settled with a contractor. deanna green was electrocuted at a softball field while stretching. her fence was resting against a fence that was touching an underground cable. when she reached for a second fence, she was electrociewtd. her mom was in the ambulance with her. >> we went to the hospital, and they did all they could do. >> reporter: green's family just reached a confidence settlement with douglas electric and lighting but upset that the city was given immunity. >> baltimore, don't think this is just going away. we're not going away. number one, you need to stand
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up and understand this was your facility. this was your responsibility. >> no one goes to a softball game thinking that they're not coming home with their daughter or their mother or their brother. na is the most -- that is the most -- that's the furthest thing from anyone's mind. >> reporter: green's death prompted the city to remove and repair underground lines in several city parks. but the city wants the city to take more responsibility to they're revising their lawsuit. >> she died because she simply touched the fence and was electrocuted much the city should give this family fair compensation for the loss of their daughter. >> i don't want anyone else to have to live through this, and i don't want the city to sit with the idea that there has no
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responsibility attached. >> after deanna's death, the city replaced cables in one park and cables were inspected at three other leeted fields. legendary actor tony curtis passed away by -- at the age of 85. he starred in everything from light comedies to dramatic roles. his daughter jamie leigh curtis released a statement saying that he will be greatly missed. former president jimmy carter is out of the hospital. he spent two days under observation. doctors said a viral infection likely gave the president some stomach problems. mr. carter turns 86 tomorrow. time for a quick look at the stories you'll find in the baltimore sun. hear from the top financial
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regulator who's preparing to join the board of the federal reserve. meet the star of the new movie sect tear yacht. >> a review of the social network was shot at johns hopkins. for more stories, check out the baltimore sun. >> and katie couric has more on what's coming up on the "cbs evening news." >> bacteria so dang and drug resistant, tar' called super bugs. what's being done to stop them? here's a look at the closing numbers from wall street. we'll be right back. ,,,,,,,,,,,
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bob as the five-day forecast. first, western western is in the outback with a look at what we can expect. >> we've been talking about how the next round of heavy rain is on the way. that's gink to continue in rounds overnight. tomorrow morning probably still
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starting off with rain before this finally gets out of here. the winds will be gusty but this time out of the northwest. that will be a much drier wind for us. fort rest of the five-day, here's bob. >> by this time tomorrow afternoon it should be reasonably dry. most of the waters will be receding by then. 72, morning showers. 72, 50. sun and clouds 69. 64, a lot of clouds, probably scattered showers coming back on monday and tuesday, 64 and 68 on tuesday. >> all right. thank you. still to come, the ravens talk about their game plan for pittsburgh. pittsburgh. >> mark as the bob ehrlich's real record on energy. lobbyists helped write utility regulations. we got stuck with a 72% rate hike. but martin o'malley got tough on bge, forcing them to pay back $2 billion to consumers. and what's bob ehrlich been doing the past four years? he got paid $2.5 million at a lobbying firm,
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a firm representing special interests and casinos right here in maryland. that's bob ehrlich-- a 72% increase for us and $2.5 million from special interests for himself. nice work, bob. old gibbs canning company. today these factories are full of dot com businesses. and now my job is helping maryland create new economy jobs.
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training new math and science teachers investing in our institutions of excellence pioneering new cyber security jobs and giving an old gm plant a jump start building electric motors. i'm barbara mikulski. i approve this message so you'll know i'm fighting for you. i'm frank kratovil and i approve this message. the real andy harris. buried in his website - a promise to replace the tax code with a 23% sales tax and eliminate the mortgage interest deduction.
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a bush tax panel said families would pay $6,000 more a year. a reagan tax advisor calls it a very dumb idea. but that's not his only bad idea. harris was the only senator to vote against expanding the child care tax credit and against the state's cancer treatment program. andy harris' extreme ideas will cost us. it seems -- call it a ray of sunshine. ray rice able to practice. he declared with sernts he will be ready to play but the final decision is up to the coaches. four days ago he wore a red vest. the red vest mean nos contact. rice says his knee feels great. it's known to be rough, both teams relying on the running
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game. i asked about the importance of the ravens moving the ball with the running back. >> it's great to go up in pittsburgh and run the ball well and take the air out of them guys and put the momentum on them. that's a huge factor that would be great for us. >> trevor pros has found a new team. he signed with the new york jets today. the ravens said it was highly likely price would be back on their roster but price takes an offer to join the jets. coming up sunday, the showdown in steel town. coverage comes your way at 1:00. stay with us. we'll have highlights, reaction and analysis. it's a special day of ravens coverage sunday. it's a college football sat date of the terps will take the field against duke. maryland won its first two games at byrd stadium. the coach knows what it takes.
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he doesn't use excuses. >> time of day, temperature, economy, record. win this week, there will be more the following week. >> saturday's meeting will be the 50th all time between the terps and the blue devils. the orioleses are back home but rain has pushed the start of their series to tomorrow. the o's and tigers will play a double header. the final road game was played indoors. millwood delivered a fine farewell through seven shutout innings. the o's won-0. dpught ri and hill man are scheduled to start in the double header against detroit. these are the ladies from the baltimore charm of the lingerie football league. they play their home opener
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tomorrow night, scantly clad. they are real ladies and they are real tough. >> the last game i had three solo tackles by myself. i get into it. i get aggressive. i want to hit that person in the back field and really go after them. >> actually, i'm a technician in the nursing field. >> they leave their day job to play real football with real injuries much the baltimore charm will tack on the tampa breeze in the home debut. they will be wearing a helmet. it's real tackle football. >> okay. stay with us. we'll be right back. ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, @
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don't miss the hit show the mentalist followed by
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eyewitness news at 11. a couple was taking pictures in a park to celebrate when they saw bruce springsteen sitting on a bench playing his guitar. they asked for a photograph but he dead one bet are, he posed with them. he said he will play glory days for their first dance. how do turtles fair against each other. in the end it was turbo to crossed the fin nsh line first. no word if there were any hares waiting. >> that's it for us tonight. we'll be back at 11:00. i'm mary bubala. >> i'm vic carter. don't go away. much more ahead with the "cbs evening news" with katie couric. joinin
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>> couric: tonight, fear of flooding as a massive rainstorm moves up the east coast. it's already a killer. i'm katie couric. also tonight, they were targeted because they were different. gay teenagers driven to take their own lives. superbugs on the rise, potenti potentially deadly bacteria that no antibiotic can stop. and it's a special night for fred and wilma ♪ oh, happy anniversary happy anniversary ♪ happy anniversary happy anniversary ♪ captioning sponsored by cbs from cbs news world headquarters in new york, this is the "cbs evening news" with katie couric. >> couric: good evening, everyone. as rainstorms go, this one is huge, and it's heading up the east coast tonight. flood warnings and watches are posted from the carolinas to the canadian border, and the rainfall is setting records. while most places will see

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